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	<description>Reporting on Kashrus in Eretz Yisrael</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 00:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Chief Rabbinate Alert 010 – Revised General Mills Information by Y.Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/chief-rabbinate-alert-010-%e2%80%93-revised-general-mills-information/comment-page-1/#comment-10180</link>
		<dc:creator>Y.Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind. Permit is correct. Just reads a bit funny.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Chief Rabbinate Alert 010 – Revised General Mills Information by Y.Kohn</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/chief-rabbinate-alert-010-%e2%80%93-revised-general-mills-information/comment-page-1/#comment-10179</link>
		<dc:creator>Y.Kohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the rabbanut permit department should take another look. According to the permit, these cereals are not hametz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the rabbanut permit department should take another look. According to the permit, these cereals are not hametz.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Israel Chodosh Concerns by Rabbi Peretz Moncharsh</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/01/israel-chodosh-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-10169</link>
		<dc:creator>Rabbi Peretz Moncharsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary: While it is true that the Rema describes two different cases of Chodosh, the current reality is analogous to his second case, the one where he requires Mutav sh’Yihiyu Shogegim. Statistics from the USDA confirm that the overwhelming majority of spring wheat is planted after Pesach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary: While it is true that the Rema describes two different cases of Chodosh, the current reality is analogous to his second case, the one where he requires Mutav sh’Yihiyu Shogegim. Statistics from the USDA confirm that the overwhelming majority of spring wheat is planted after Pesach.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Basher Cheese in the Shuk by Yonatan Ben-Zev</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/01/basher-cheese-in-the-shuk/comment-page-1/#comment-10156</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonatan Ben-Zev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 09:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>chaim: You didn't read my comment properly. I wrote "wash the knife in front of you to make sure no חלב עכו”מ is in your cheese". I agree that if it was non-Kosher cheese this would be useless, but for חלב עכו"מ which is not actually not Kosher this is fine.

Reuven: The Rabbinate found cheeses with fake hechsherim on. Cheeses which no other store stocks. This is wilfully misleading the public. In addition we are in Israel, if the store sells non-Kosher products then they should make people aware. This is not Chutz La'eretz. As an example when I've been in Netanya and walked into a store without a teudat hechsher, they've told me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>chaim: You didn&#8217;t read my comment properly. I wrote &#8220;wash the knife in front of you to make sure no חלב עכו”מ is in your cheese&#8221;. I agree that if it was non-Kosher cheese this would be useless, but for חלב עכו&#8221;מ which is not actually not Kosher this is fine.</p>
<p>Reuven: The Rabbinate found cheeses with fake hechsherim on. Cheeses which no other store stocks. This is wilfully misleading the public. In addition we are in Israel, if the store sells non-Kosher products then they should make people aware. This is not Chutz La&#8217;eretz. As an example when I&#8217;ve been in Netanya and walked into a store without a teudat hechsher, they&#8217;ve told me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Another Article on Chodosh – Rabbi Yehuda Spitz by cmb</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/another-article-on-chodosh-%e2%80%93-rabbi-yehuda-spitz/comment-page-1/#comment-10154</link>
		<dc:creator>cmb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As previously stated - great comprehensive article article! Even worthwhile to wade through the end notes! R Yechiel -Thanks for posting!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As previously stated - great comprehensive article article! Even worthwhile to wade through the end notes! R Yechiel -Thanks for posting!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on More Tu B’Shevat Information: From the CRC by yehuda shain</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/more-tu-b%e2%80%99shevat-information-for-the-crc/comment-page-1/#comment-10127</link>
		<dc:creator>yehuda shain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 03:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CRC Tu Bi'shvat poster is sponsered by the Klein's company. Klein's is certified by CRC Hisachdus, OK, Debrecin Rav. When CRC baneed raisins due to infestation, Klein's used the Debricin emblem. When the OK banned Dried cherries, the Klein Company only used CRC. Therefore one should not rely on them. 

The stated methods for figs, raisins, etc are unacceptable, even for the ones that may think they know hot to identify certain insects that are not camoflaoged.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CRC Tu Bi&#8217;shvat poster is sponsered by the Klein&#8217;s company. Klein&#8217;s is certified by CRC Hisachdus, OK, Debrecin Rav. When CRC baneed raisins due to infestation, Klein&#8217;s used the Debricin emblem. When the OK banned Dried cherries, the Klein Company only used CRC. Therefore one should not rely on them. </p>
<p>The stated methods for figs, raisins, etc are unacceptable, even for the ones that may think they know hot to identify certain insects that are not camoflaoged.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chodosh Article from Rabbi Yehuda Baum by Thankful Reader</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/chodosh-article-from-rabbi-yehuda-baum/comment-page-1/#comment-10103</link>
		<dc:creator>Thankful Reader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for restarting your site! And thank you for highlighting this particular Hechsher. I've seen it around and now I know a bit more....I'm looking forward to hearing more on it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for restarting your site! And thank you for highlighting this particular Hechsher. I&#8217;ve seen it around and now I know a bit more&#8230;.I&#8217;m looking forward to hearing more on it!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Israel Chodosh Concerns by Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/01/israel-chodosh-concerns/comment-page-1/#comment-10048</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not a rabbi, and I'm very happy that you looked up the Rama, cmb. However, the Rama is talking about two types of chadash. It is about the second that he says mutav sheyehiyu shogegin. What is very clear is that in previous generations, everyone ate chodosh in chul (MB says this about his generation, Taz about his, etc). And in our generation, the OU paskens against this "halacha mefureshes". cmb, you might not rely on the OU, but the fact that you can describe their poskim as holding against a "halacha mefureshes", and then pointing to arguments in the poskim, saying that in each one, the "halacha mefureshes" is like the machmir shitta, is embarrassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a rabbi, and I&#8217;m very happy that you looked up the Rama, cmb. However, the Rama is talking about two types of chadash. It is about the second that he says mutav sheyehiyu shogegin. What is very clear is that in previous generations, everyone ate chodosh in chul (MB says this about his generation, Taz about his, etc). And in our generation, the OU paskens against this &#8220;halacha mefureshes&#8221;. cmb, you might not rely on the OU, but the fact that you can describe their poskim as holding against a &#8220;halacha mefureshes&#8221;, and then pointing to arguments in the poskim, saying that in each one, the &#8220;halacha mefureshes&#8221; is like the machmir shitta, is embarrassing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amended Chodosh Dates From the OU by Yankie</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/amended-chodosh-dates-from-the-ou/comment-page-1/#comment-10034</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>R Herman has now confirmed on his hotline that the date was now changed as per the OU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R Herman has now confirmed on his hotline that the date was now changed as per the OU.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Amended Chodosh Dates From the OU by Yankie</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2012/02/amended-chodosh-dates-from-the-ou/comment-page-1/#comment-10026</link>
		<dc:creator>Yankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 17:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a email sent out by R Herman

"General Mills sold in Israel. Claims have been made that the O-U has provided special communications to authorities in Israel regarding the Yoshon status of American cereals under the O-U hashgocho that are marketed in Israel. For example, the O-U has been reported to certify that the   Chodosh dates for certain Cheerios cereals are later than the dates given in the second issue of the Guide to   Chodosh. The O-U denies ever supplying such information. In fact, the O-U certifies Yoshon in Israel for General Mills products only on special runs of Nature Valley Granola bars sold in Israel where both the O-U symbol and Yoshon are printed on the label.  

General Mills cereals. The oats   Chodosh PACKING date is revised to Feb 29, ‘12. This only applies to oats. Cereals that have wheat or wheat starch would have the earlier date published in the Guide. Code for oats only: Mar 7 13."


What a balagan

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As far as your the discussion on the previous thread whether Chodush is a chumrah or not, let me clarify that the issue here is Minhag Hamokom. In Israel evreyone is makpid on Yoshon therefore because of the minhag all imported products must be Yoshon, thats why you wont see hechsheirim mentioning that its a chumrah. By all means if you bought your cereal already and can't return it - bring it to chutz la'aretz and eat it there!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a email sent out by R Herman</p>
<p>&#8220;General Mills sold in Israel. Claims have been made that the O-U has provided special communications to authorities in Israel regarding the Yoshon status of American cereals under the O-U hashgocho that are marketed in Israel. For example, the O-U has been reported to certify that the   Chodosh dates for certain Cheerios cereals are later than the dates given in the second issue of the Guide to   Chodosh. The O-U denies ever supplying such information. In fact, the O-U certifies Yoshon in Israel for General Mills products only on special runs of Nature Valley Granola bars sold in Israel where both the O-U symbol and Yoshon are printed on the label.  </p>
<p>General Mills cereals. The oats   Chodosh PACKING date is revised to Feb 29, ‘12. This only applies to oats. Cereals that have wheat or wheat starch would have the earlier date published in the Guide. Code for oats only: Mar 7 13.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a balagan</p>
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<p>As far as your the discussion on the previous thread whether Chodush is a chumrah or not, let me clarify that the issue here is Minhag Hamokom. In Israel evreyone is makpid on Yoshon therefore because of the minhag all imported products must be Yoshon, thats why you wont see hechsheirim mentioning that its a chumrah. By all means if you bought your cereal already and can&#8217;t return it - bring it to chutz la&#8217;aretz and eat it there!</p>
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