Some reminders ahead of summer

21 Tammuz 5772
July 11, 2012

The following is taken from the Chief Rabbinate of Israel Kashrus Fraud (Enforcement) Division update 024/2012 dated 19 Tammuz 5772.

1. To determine if a place is indeed kosher, one should ask to see the teudat kashrut.

JKN ADDS: This must be an original document, not a photo or photocopy.

2. One must ascertain that the local rabbinate appearing on the teudah is the same as the area one is in.
JKN ADDS: For example, if one is in Jerusalem, the local rabbinate kosher certificate may be from the Jerusalem Rabbinate only.

3. One must ascertain that the certificate on display is valid, not expired

4. One must ascertain that the name of the store and address as the same as that which appears on the teudah.
JKN ADDS: That means if a store has several branches, a kosher certificate from another branch is NOT valid in other stores. Each branch must have its own valid teudat kashrut.

5. It is advised to inquire as to the whereabouts of the mashgiach. If he is not present, you can get his phone number from the teudat kashrut or the store owner and it is worthwhile to phone and exchange a few words towards ascertaining the kashrus standard of the store.
JKN ADDS: From my experience, good luck here. The mashgiach is rarely on premises and if you call, you must be able to converse in Hebrew and sound like you have an idea what you are talking about. My point is that if you rely on this, it will be difficult in most cases since the system (badatzim included in most cases) do not insist on the constant presence of a mashgiach.

6. Do not go into a place that displays a rabbinate teudah from a local rabbinate of another locale.
JKN ADDS: This is the reverse of number 2. That is to say, a local rabbinate hechsher in a Jerusalem eatery from Beit Shemesh Rabbinate or Matte Yehuda Rabbinate for example is not valid under the law.

7. Don’t accept claims from an owner regarding the kashrus of his store, perhaps explaining “we are kosher but cannot get a teudah because we are open on shabbat” or that “we are kosher but the mashgiach has not yet delivered the new teudah”.

8. Do not rely on the kashrus of homemade items, those cakes or other foods sold in kiosks wrapped and simply bearing a sticker that attests to their kosher integrity. Labels must indicate company name and name of manufacturer and other information.
JKN ADDS: This refers to kiosks like the one found at Binyanei Ha’uma in Jerusalem, where pastries are sold wrapped in saran wrap exhibiting stickers only.

9. Those planning to visit ‘tzimmerim’ (vacation bungalows) and guest houses, there are issues beyond the kosher certificate, such as adherence to the laws of shabbat, if there is a kosher eruv, hashgacha on premises on shabbat, electric eyes that operate doors, triggering an electronic device by opening a door/window, triggering the air conditioning/heating by opening a door/window, electronic devices in bathrooms, electronic water faucets, if the automated elevator is certified by a halachic authority for shabbos use, and more.

10. There are tzimmerim operating without kosher supervision that offer kosher meals. One should be aware there are issues here as well, including they may have heated a meal using their kitchen, pots and utensils. Some order sealed prepackaged meals. These issues must be investigated.

11. If you detect kashrut deficiencies in a certified location, please bring this to the attention of kashrut officials in that local rabbinate. In the event you suspect kashrus fraud, please contact the Chief Rabbinate’s Kashrus Fraud division at achifa1@rabbinate.gov.il.
JKN ADDS: Please notify JKN in writing as well at jerusalemkn@gmail.com

 

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5 Comments

  • Judah
    July 11, 2012 - 13:34 | Permalink

    You mention that #6 is the reverse of #2. If you ask me, its not the reverse, its the exact same thing from a different perspective.

  • Darth Zeidah
    July 11, 2012 - 14:26 | Permalink

    This looks like the tail trying to wag the dog.

    The JKN “תוספות” to each and every פסוק of the main Rabanut message are ridiculous and risible.

  • Irwin
    July 11, 2012 - 19:59 | Permalink

    This is not some stupid “frume” blog. For those of us who appreciate what this website adds to our the sanctity of our visits to EY, we can well tolerate the ocassional addenum. If you don’t , please keep your comments solely to content accuracy not stylistic nuance. There are plenty of sites for kvetchers looking for 30kb of fame…

  • Darth Zeidah
    July 12, 2012 - 18:21 | Permalink

    There are plenty of sites for kvetchers looking for 30kb of fame

    Kol hakavod Irwin! You described yourself perfectly.

  • Bat-El
    July 18, 2012 - 14:36 | Permalink

    I am ashamed at all of you who write such comments full of “Sin’at Chinam”! You write without thinking first. Do you think that with all this sin’at chinam, you will be assisting to bring the Ge’ulah? Exactly what you are writing and saying, full of sin’ah, is what destroyed both Beit Mikdash! Wake up and smell the coffee! Look in the mirror… start changing your ways, as you will not be zocheh to greet Mashi’ach ben David, if you continue in such behavior!

    Yechiel does an incredible job, so much detail research on his personal time – as a volunteer for Am YIsrael, who wishes to impart all this incredible Kashrut information – whether to report on places whose kashrut certificates have been removed, and or to report on proper looking kashrut certificates… and much more concerning “foods” that don’t have proper hechsherim, etc.

    Yechiel is doing an incredible chessed by gathering and investigating all this information… and you don’t appreciate it.

    SHAME ON ALL OF YOU!
    ENOUGH WITH DIBUR OF SIN’AT CHINAM… IT’S TIME FOR AHAVAT CHINAM!
    PARTAKE IN BRINGING THE GE’ULAH [hopefully b'Rachamim] AND THAT YOU MAY BE ZOCHEH TO GREET MASHI’ACH AND PARTAKE IN BINYAN YERUSHALAYIM.

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