Just mention chezkas chalvi in a professional sitting and he starts to rant! He says there is no way there can be chezkas parve in a chalvi place, it is assur to sell milchig bread (or serve in a non home setting) and that people should complain about such places. He cites the same reasons you do, and that is why in a home we allow what we will not allow in a resturant or bakery.

As soon as I read your article I was struck with the realization that yes, in self sevice places where a spatula is not tyed to the section one can use whatever they want….I did undertand that borekas are shaped differently in order to make a difference between Parve and Chalavi…
again Yasher Koach

I carelessly typed in the wrong numbers for the source in Yoreh Deah.. The simon is tzeide heh –YD 95:2.

My apologies.

Yehoshua

You are correct. Chezkat Chalavi does not mean Chalavi. There is a makhloket between the Mechaber & Rama on how to treat pareve food that was cooked on ben yomo milchig keilim (YD 94:5). For Ashkenazim, we don’t eat the food together with meat, but we can eat it separately even at the same meal –> no need to wait.

L’maaseh in bakeries that serve both, one could ask the mashgiach about how particular they are that the trays are clean. If there is mamashos of milchigs on the tray, it could be an issue. But the bottom line is that pareve means pareve, with the exception of eating it with meat mamish.

Also, I don’t agree that it is an area of concern for someone to be using the same implements for both milchigs and pareve when serving pastries. A tong that touches a cheese danish does not make a pareve rugelach milchigs.