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	<title>Comments on: Blueberries and Jerusalem&#8217;s Taiku Restaurant</title>
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		<title>By: Ron, TAIKU</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron, TAIKU</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TAIKU has recently chose to take on the hechsher of OU-Mehadrin. The change was made about two weeks ago and it is highly possible that the OU did not update their lists yet. The phone-call described in the article was an unfortunate misunderstanding of one of our waiters.  The hechsher of the restaurant is a very important aspect of our service, and we follow the most strict regulations in order to provide it. There is indeed a mashgiach tmidi in the restaurant and all our meat and poultry are under the hechsher or Rav Rubin, Rav Landau or Eida Chareidis. For further information you are most invited to call the restaurant 02-5665262, We&#039;ll be happy to answer any question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TAIKU has recently chose to take on the hechsher of OU-Mehadrin. The change was made about two weeks ago and it is highly possible that the OU did not update their lists yet. The phone-call described in the article was an unfortunate misunderstanding of one of our waiters.  The hechsher of the restaurant is a very important aspect of our service, and we follow the most strict regulations in order to provide it. There is indeed a mashgiach tmidi in the restaurant and all our meat and poultry are under the hechsher or Rav Rubin, Rav Landau or Eida Chareidis. For further information you are most invited to call the restaurant 02-5665262, We&#8217;ll be happy to answer any question.</p>
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		<title>By: Sassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 14:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Taiku advertised on Janglo today claiming that they no longer have their Agudus Yisrael hechsher, but are now under OU supervision with a mashgiach tmidi. However, it was not on your current list of OU supervised resteraunts. Do you know anything about this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Taiku advertised on Janglo today claiming that they no longer have their Agudus Yisrael hechsher, but are now under OU supervision with a mashgiach tmidi. However, it was not on your current list of OU supervised resteraunts. Do you know anything about this?</p>
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		<title>By: Eliyahu Skoczylas</title>
		<link>http://www.jerusalemkoshernews.com/2009/06/blueberries-and-jerusalems-taiko-restaurant/comment-page-1/#comment-77</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliyahu Skoczylas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 13:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just did some research on blueberries, and it seems that the confusion is not only halachic!  There are numerous varieties of real blueberries, both &quot;lowbush&quot; varieties, which grow on the ground, and &quot;highbush&quot; varieties, which have a trunk and look like trees.  In addition, since the shrubs are native to North America, their name is often confused with European and other strains like bilberries or huckleberries, which also include bluish to purple varieties, and have names in other languages that translate to &quot;blue berry&quot; in English.  It is no wonder that halachic opinions could differ.

Also, it seems that a common cultivating practice, especially for lowbush varieties, is to burn down the plants after every two harvest years!  The plant then regrows more healthfully from the stem.  I assume that for orla purposes this would still be considered the same &quot;tree&quot;, but it could have a &quot;marit `ayin&quot; effect as the tree would look new, even though it&#039;s grown from the same stem that was in the ground for many years.

In my humble opinion, I wouldn&#039;t be satisfied with asking an agronomically knowledgeable Rav; I would want one who knew the plants in question, and the history of the &quot;orchard&quot; under question, before making a decision.

Nonetheless, I fundamentally don&#039;t understand the problem - since the stems produce fruits for many years, why can&#039;t the growers just wait until the plants have had four halachic years?  It seems to me that you could have an orchard divided into sections where the new plants are &quot;l&#039;kula&quot; (lenient - treated as vegetables) and the old pants are &quot;machmir&quot; (strict - treated as trees).  Then people who were concerned could go to pick in the &quot;mehadrin&quot; sections and be done with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just did some research on blueberries, and it seems that the confusion is not only halachic!  There are numerous varieties of real blueberries, both &#8220;lowbush&#8221; varieties, which grow on the ground, and &#8220;highbush&#8221; varieties, which have a trunk and look like trees.  In addition, since the shrubs are native to North America, their name is often confused with European and other strains like bilberries or huckleberries, which also include bluish to purple varieties, and have names in other languages that translate to &#8220;blue berry&#8221; in English.  It is no wonder that halachic opinions could differ.</p>
<p>Also, it seems that a common cultivating practice, especially for lowbush varieties, is to burn down the plants after every two harvest years!  The plant then regrows more healthfully from the stem.  I assume that for orla purposes this would still be considered the same &#8220;tree&#8221;, but it could have a &#8220;marit `ayin&#8221; effect as the tree would look new, even though it&#8217;s grown from the same stem that was in the ground for many years.</p>
<p>In my humble opinion, I wouldn&#8217;t be satisfied with asking an agronomically knowledgeable Rav; I would want one who knew the plants in question, and the history of the &#8220;orchard&#8221; under question, before making a decision.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I fundamentally don&#8217;t understand the problem &#8211; since the stems produce fruits for many years, why can&#8217;t the growers just wait until the plants have had four halachic years?  It seems to me that you could have an orchard divided into sections where the new plants are &#8220;l&#8217;kula&#8221; (lenient &#8211; treated as vegetables) and the old pants are &#8220;machmir&#8221; (strict &#8211; treated as trees).  Then people who were concerned could go to pick in the &#8220;mehadrin&#8221; sections and be done with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Chaya Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chaya Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 11:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really excited to stumble upon this site. I &#039;d just raised the question of blueberries with some friends on Shavuos, and there it was! the information I had no idea I&#039;d ever meet up with. I look forward to reading about other topics of interest- e.g. Can one get cream of tartar with a mehadrin hechsher in Israel?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really excited to stumble upon this site. I &#8216;d just raised the question of blueberries with some friends on Shavuos, and there it was! the information I had no idea I&#8217;d ever meet up with. I look forward to reading about other topics of interest- e.g. Can one get cream of tartar with a mehadrin hechsher in Israel?</p>
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